Krishnamurti's statement that 'There is no leader, there is no teacher, there is nobody to tell you what to do' is perfectly true and perfectly wise if you wish to become a fully enlightened person, because The Buddha said the very same thing (though many followers of Buddhism don't seem to be aware of it). He said , 'Don't follow leaders. Don't follow me.'
"Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men" (Matt 4:19). "Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead" (Matt 8:22).
Of course, whether Jesus ever existed, and if so whether he said this, we have no idea so we have to admit we don't know - which is perhaps a wise assessment. But Krishnamurti saying something about not following leaders ... at least can be validated.
I was fortunate to listen to Krishnamurti speak at a retreat in Saanen, Switzerland in 1971. The boy I was with and I got to sleep in the tent in exchange for keeping it clean. I feel fortunate to have had this experience. And, yes, it is up to us.
What a cool experience!! Being in the presence of someone who transmits a certain Energy is such a life-changing experience.
I met Albert Ellis before he died. The transmission of his energy into my consciousness was so powerful. It’s impacted me on an almost weekly basis ever since.
It brings tears to my eyes to think about the impact. He saved me years, if not decades of inner work with one simple transmission: you can stand it.
He lived ate slept and breathed the belief that no matter what you’ve been through, you can stand it.
And he literally transmitted that into my cells because I was in his presence just one day. I am eternally grateful.
I can only imagine that being in the presence of Krishnamurthi this one time had a profound impact on your life. What a blessing!
I’ve been an outsider most of my life, preferring solitude to the company of others. I went a year with no TV while in school recently. I am sociable, but an introvert at heart. I think I walk than line well. Only in the last few months have I felt like I needed people, only because I’m healing.
When you're alone, you can listen to the promptings of your own heart and steer clear of those who tell you those promptings are "of the devil." They only want you to follow theirs.
Cutting ourselves off from our traditions can leave us unmoored and adrift. I feel krishnamurti was speaking of modern society which is a pseudo-culture and not a true culture. Indigenous peoples have lived with their societies for millennia and in right relationship with the earth. Let's not mix this up with modern society which as Eric Fromm said is 'insane' to begin with.
If we can open ourselves to eternity, there is no room for so much ridiculous hubub that dominates social groups. For so long, I confused Intelligence with the astute processing and synthesis of information. Thank you, Jiddu Krishnamurti, for helping me to be more aware.
Krishnamurti's statement that 'There is no leader, there is no teacher, there is nobody to tell you what to do' is perfectly true and perfectly wise if you wish to become a fully enlightened person, because The Buddha said the very same thing (though many followers of Buddhism don't seem to be aware of it). He said , 'Don't follow leaders. Don't follow me.'
Absolutely - like Jesus - they all said the same.
"Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men" (Matt 4:19). "Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead" (Matt 8:22).
Of course, whether Jesus ever existed, and if so whether he said this, we have no idea so we have to admit we don't know - which is perhaps a wise assessment. But Krishnamurti saying something about not following leaders ... at least can be validated.
Martin, I remember a car bumper sticker saying 'God, protect me from your followers'.
I'm trying to ride the line between the two. Toe the edge of solitude and socialization. A soft ego, but not an absent ego.
"Don't follow leaders. Watch the parkin' meters."
I love Dylan. He' been on his own path for a long time now.
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I was fortunate to listen to Krishnamurti speak at a retreat in Saanen, Switzerland in 1971. The boy I was with and I got to sleep in the tent in exchange for keeping it clean. I feel fortunate to have had this experience. And, yes, it is up to us.
What a cool experience!! Being in the presence of someone who transmits a certain Energy is such a life-changing experience.
I met Albert Ellis before he died. The transmission of his energy into my consciousness was so powerful. It’s impacted me on an almost weekly basis ever since.
It brings tears to my eyes to think about the impact. He saved me years, if not decades of inner work with one simple transmission: you can stand it.
He lived ate slept and breathed the belief that no matter what you’ve been through, you can stand it.
And he literally transmitted that into my cells because I was in his presence just one day. I am eternally grateful.
I can only imagine that being in the presence of Krishnamurthi this one time had a profound impact on your life. What a blessing!
I’ve been an outsider most of my life, preferring solitude to the company of others. I went a year with no TV while in school recently. I am sociable, but an introvert at heart. I think I walk than line well. Only in the last few months have I felt like I needed people, only because I’m healing.
Jiddu changed the way I look at the world. I first heard about him on Zeitgeist, thanks to Jordan Maxwell. Where did you first hear about him Poetic?
Can't believe I didn't see this until now. Everything you post is incredible, and resonates with me so much.
Socialization is all fine and well, until they want you to be like them. The need to be me is stronger.
You can follow the Krishnamurtri society on Instagram. They post a quote daily and have live footage of his talks.
Thanks for this recommendation!
Among the throng, but not of the throng.
When you're alone, you can listen to the promptings of your own heart and steer clear of those who tell you those promptings are "of the devil." They only want you to follow theirs.
stay out of The Matrix.
I have been reading Jiddu Krishnamurthy consistently, who speaks the truth very clearly. He is a true humanist and knows the real meaning of life.
Krishnamurti always has this way of slicing right through the bullshit and saying it like it is. This is pure source speaking through a man 🙏
Cutting ourselves off from our traditions can leave us unmoored and adrift. I feel krishnamurti was speaking of modern society which is a pseudo-culture and not a true culture. Indigenous peoples have lived with their societies for millennia and in right relationship with the earth. Let's not mix this up with modern society which as Eric Fromm said is 'insane' to begin with.
If we can open ourselves to eternity, there is no room for so much ridiculous hubub that dominates social groups. For so long, I confused Intelligence with the astute processing and synthesis of information. Thank you, Jiddu Krishnamurti, for helping me to be more aware.