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Poetic Outlaws's avatar

If anyone is interested in a little more in depth understanding of Mr. Gray's philosophy, here's a brief 10 minute interview well worth your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ft10Kx4Enos&fbclid=IwAR3ulAFLYVG_01nwmHTskKKrilMj-R-9iFr7Lh9zNzpX51DcGA8w1uY6JX0

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Felix Purat's avatar

I think I'll get this for my friend. It'll piss him off but in an appreciative way. In any case, I agree about progress being a myth and that thinking people have "unthinking ideas." An assault upon that cluster of annoying ideas has been a long time coming.

That being said, while I have to read it first it doesn't sound like Gray gives us anything new. The book sounds like it tries to spank us in the ass with an acceptance of anti-humanism, which isn't a healthy mentality to live with irrespective of how much we value progress. Can't progress be simply critiqued in and of itself? It appears Anthropocene, and the idea that we are animals and not exalted humans comes from science and evolution, meaning it comes from the same flawed source as the humanists and believers in scientism relying on Darwin. And no matter what a philosopher chooses to argue, look at our cities and our creations: then point to an animal that has come close to doing the same thing. We are different from other animals: that's a fact we only need eyes to determine. (I don't accept that whole postmodernist shtick where it's all an illusion: and if it is, only God could create that, which gives Christianity the victory anyway. Which is fine with me, but even then it wouldn't make sense for God to make it all an illusion because if I'm engaging in the sin of gluttony, then isn't my sin just an illusion too?)

Correct me if I'm wrong. But good recommendation. I'll be sure to check this book out.

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